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Post Hokushinkan
Natsumi om Hokushinkan, i en diskussion om tenugi. Mycket visste vi, men en del kul kuriosa om t.ex. polstjärnan!

First of all, regarding the name hokushin-kan(北辰館). [...] Did hokushin-kan really have the meaning of dragon? I don't know the history of your dojo so much, maybe the Japanese who came and built the dojo explained you that the dojo reflects dragon or something? Certainly, hokushin-kan(北辰館) has three Chinese characters, namely 北(North/Northern), 辰(a dragon in the Chinese astrology), and 館(a house).

Yet, actually hokushin(北辰) means the God of Polar Star rather than dragon itself. Since the Polar Star is the only star which does not move in the sky and it always gives the right direction to people, therefore it has been worshipped in the form of the God from the ancient time, at least in China and Japan. The image of the God is unspecified, sometimes it looks like the mixture of a tortoise(Black Tortoise) and a snake but people don't care the image of the God itself. The God of Polar star shows up riding on a dragon, so I would say the god of polar star itself is not a dragon. For example, there are a lot of shrines in Japan which worship that God. The well known kendo style "北辰一刀流"(hokushin-itto-ryu) was also named after the god of Polar Star.

We actually have three different Chinese characters which have a meaning of dragon, Ryu/Tastu(龍 or 竜) and Tastu(辰). Although I'm not a specialist of Chinese characters ([...]), I have an impression toward Ryu/Tastu(龍 or 竜) that they have a relatively concrete image of dragon especially 龍 is eastern/asian dragon and 竜 is rather western dragon. (you know the image toward dragon is quite different in Europe and Asia, same as snakes. Quite interesting.) In terms of Tastu(辰), basically it is the chinese character which shows direction or time, that is why it is used in the Chinese astrology with the image of dragon for some reason, which I don't know why. So I think 龍, 竜 and 辰 have slightly different meanings, I think. Maybe it's better to ask Mao, she must know more about Chinese character :)

My point is that, 北辰 means not "northern dragon" but "the Polar Star", therefore, I'm a little wondering which meaning hokushin-kan(北辰館) has or is understood by all of you. I mean, of course, it would be cool to have an image of dragon on tenugi but just a reminder, 北辰 is made by not the only Chinese character 辰, but it is made by two Chinese Characters which mean a little different from a dragon itself.

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07 Feb 2013 12:11
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Post Re: Hokushinkan
Kul info. Skicka ett tack från mig.

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